Pending Rule Changes 2012

cole45 · Post by **cole45** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:26 am

we have a list of pending WH rule changed over at WH.

http://www.winterhavenlarp.com/phpbb3/v ... f=8&t=2712

Wyrmwrath · Post by **Wyrmwrath** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:45 am

Continers:
To be sure I understand them as they are written, do they hold ADDITIONAL rescources over what a PC can carry without skill or perk modification; or do they determine the MAX a PC can carry without skill or perk modification?

For example, can a PC carrying thier standard 3 invest in a class one backpack and now carry 9(since class one is listed as up to six( or can the PC simply now carry 6 total?

Vaults:

General rules –
1. A Vault must be the same size as the Building it is being built in, unless GM permission is acquired that says otherwise.

I dont follow the logic behind this, can this be clarified.

Weapon construction:
There are skills that talk about small weapon size catagory, but still no parameters on the construction chart. I assume where the chart lists "tiny" its meant to refer to small, but that then means there are no coonstruction size guide lines for tiny weapons such as fists.

GM-Phil · Post by **GM-Phil** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:53 pm

Containers - the number listed is the max you can carry with the container, not additional.

Vaults - the part about it being the same size is a general rule, so people know what to expect - not to say you cannot try and build a different sized Vault under a building - or somewhere else - that is what the "Special Building" rules are for - in those cases working out something with the GM is your best bet. The rules in the book are just meant to be a standard guidline.

As for Weapon sizes - I asked around and could not get a reply as to if the weapons size list in the rulebook is accurate - as of right now I assume it is - if it is not we can make an errata later for what the correct sizes and listing are.

Wyrmwrath · Post by **Wyrmwrath** » Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:29 am

Vaults - the part about it being the same size is a general rule, so people know what to expect - not to say you cannot try and build a different sized Vault under a building - or somewhere else - that is what the "Special Building" rules are for - in those cases working out something with the GM is your best bet. The rules in the book are just meant to be a standard guidline.

So ...if I want to build a stone building thats 20 x 20, with a vauls...the vault has to be 20 x 20..... how the heck do you get into the building to get TO the vault? Where do I sleep? Whats the logic behind this?

As for Weapon sizes - I asked around and could not get a reply as to if the weapons size list in the rulebook is accurate - as of right now I assume it is - if it is not we can make an errata later for what the correct sizes and listing are.

Either the tiny weapon on the size chart is supposed to read small, and the tiny weapon dimentions are missing OR the dimentions for small weapons is missing...since the rules state there is a small weapon size thats larger than a tiny/fist sized weapon.

I guess another possibility is fists are meant to be tiny sized and can be upgraded to short(which IS on the list)

GM-Phil · Post by **GM-Phil** » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:03 am

As for Vaults - Buildings are no longer dimension based - they are more open sized - Small, Medium, Large, Special.

Also it is intended tht most vaults are underground.. this may not be the case for your buidling.. The rules are meant to give a guidline for players and Gm's to come up with something together, but give the player some idea of what it might cost. Since there are not many buildings built in-game being overly specific seemed a detriment to the system, and we are hoping being more open will encourage the construction of more buildings.

Post by **GM-Mike** » Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:19 am

The beginning of that post on the WH boards is misleading. We don't believe that that there will be different rules for the different chapters.

Wyrmwrath · Post by **Wyrmwrath** » Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:17 am

I can get behind not basing the building size on hard dimentions since different camps have different buildings...it makes sense. What DOESNT make sense is saying the vault HAS to be the same size as the building. That means if I have a large building at a camp I use as my PCs fort (say a 50 x 50 cabin), that my only option is a large vault. Why? Why cant I chose to have a small vault there...and another small vault hidded elsewhere? I can see grading vaults by size, but see no logic forcing them to be the same size as the building they are attached to. I dont even see wht a small building cant have the largest vault. Mayne Kaylan wants a bat cave foir his bat chariot....
The system forces a connection based on size and I dont see the logic behind that. I think the vault should be a totaly seperate consideration.

Wyrmwrath · Post by **Wyrmwrath** » Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:41 am

Do I understand correctly that if I cover the costs of level 3 wealthy I can pick one benefit from each of level 1, 2, AND 3?

Ark · Post by **Ark** » Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:30 pm

is rogue crit strike coming back down to 3 per level yet. . .anyone. . .didnt think so

GM-Phil · Post by **GM-Phil** » Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:40 pm

Brian - you are correct on Wealthy

Wyrmwrath · Post by **Wyrmwrath** » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:12 pm

*takes all takis rescources*

Arjan · Post by **Arjan** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:12 pm

*stabs Brian in the back as he makes his get-away*
*returns half to Taki saying Brian must have hidden them before i got there*

Wyrmwrath · Post by **Wyrmwrath** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:22 pm

friggan rogues...

GM-Phil · Post by **GM-Phil** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:37 am

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6ZSaR ... WG0zVEp2UQ

And here is the Heroes and Villains Expansion update -

have at Brian

Wyrmwrath · Post by **Wyrmwrath** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:10 pm

Sooo...whaddya tryin to say Phil...lol

Already tracked it down and looking it over for "whatsthis" issues. Making a short list just havent had time to devote to it in depth like it should have.