The role of disguise in a LARP.

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But I still think NPCs should immediatly identify what they represent the moment someone looks at them. The reaction to an ubber-monster should be instantaneous. Not -

Who is that?
An NPC?
Is he wearing a headband?
Yes, but he's dressed like a peasant.
He IS walking directly at me. I better ask.


"Excuse me, but what do I s-"

"10 CRUSH-10 CRUSH-10 CRUSH-10 CRUSH!!!!"

The "What do I see?" question also breaks up gameplay more than a direct statement from the NPC. New players must also then train themselves to ask "What do I see?" to every NPC they encounter as a survival tactic.

Yeah, this is getting off topic, but this is a subject that's been clearly bothering me for awhile. :P
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For monsters and things that don't look human I think this is a great idea, as the NPC's enter an area with PC's if they identify themselves out loud it takes some of the guessing game out of it. Human npc's being played don't neccesarily need to announce themselves but I would say that even other demi-humans unless properly outfitted (beard for dwarf ears for elf...).
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I hear you but to be honest I would rather have the costuming though it is tough to do.

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Yeah I know so would we all but as you said costuming is costly and this could be a good comprimise until good costuming can be gotten. On the costuming subject I have a bunch of stuff that I'm gonna donate to you guys I just need to make it look a little more in preiod with some wooden toggles or something. Most of it is sized for me but that just means that it'll be too big for most of you guys. I also keep my eyes out for good stuff when I'm at the thrift stores but lately there has been much less stuff in the thrift stores.
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Bradfor ,


You stop telling all our secrets :x


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blah blah blah. Order schmorder. They got a gripe with me, let me know and I'll "deal decisively" with them.
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Problem with verbal identification is you have to do it every time a new PC enters the area.

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Hmmm...not sure what to do about that. I would hope the other PC's would inform the new ones, even if they have to say, "OOG, you see a demonic thing over there, " especially if their PC would not. The NPC would not have to repeat themselves ten million times in one scene.

Any other ideas? Mine was pretty lame.
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I would say if an npc is obviously playing something that a pc would not be playing, like a flesh golum for example, then, at least where there is light it makes sense to identify ourselves before we start chopping people to bits (or at least as we are swinging). Even where there isn't light, when playing an obviously non-humanoid creature, some sort of identification makes sense. However, if is outside at night and a humanoid, then no call is necessary. Basically, this gets rid of the need for the what do we see call. If we don't tell you then you see what you see...basically. If we do tell you, chances are you better prepare to get beaten into the ground (evil laugh)
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Yes, exactly.

As for new PCs arriving on a scene in progress, they pretty much always know it's up to them to find out what's happening, as the NPCs and PCs are currently occupied with interaction. Just by seeing the interaction (chatting amiably, argueing, or fighting), the new arrival gets an instant idea of the situation. New arrivals then normally find a fellow PC to ask "What's going on?"

The problem to rectify is initial contact. Must prevent people from thinking that 80 ft. angry cyclops that's approaching is just another non-descript peasant. :P
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If we're thinking of using tags anyway, would color coding them to represent different aspects be an option? For example, a demon might be identified with a red tag, whereas a more natural beastie would sport a green tag. Undead could be black, etc. You could even scale the tag to the creature. While it's still no substitute for good costuming, seeing someone step out of the bushes wearing a massive red tag might allow for the kind of reaction we're looking for from the PC's.
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Colors are hard to see in the dark, especially on the trails or if there is no moon and/or cloud cover.
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They'd probably work well during the day, though. But they'd have to be large, obvious, and viewable from all angles - more like colored vests.
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