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Post by **GM_Chris** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 1:27 pm

Ok here be some rule clarifications and if I am wrong then another GM can correct me.

1) How big or small can a shield and buckler be? I would like this question fielded by another since I dont have a book in front of me.

2) How many bucklers and shields can you wear at one
time? 1 (You can cary more than one..forexample you can wear one on your back but that shield would not protect you from hits.)

3) Can you use a buckler on your sword arm and a
shield in your off hand? No (Or I should say you can BUT the extra shield would not protect you and any hits to it would be crush)

Yes I saw a person or two with two shields..So here is the clarification.

Chris

Lao · Post by **Lao** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 2:08 pm

Hooray for the Cheesegrater!!

Peace420 · Post by **Peace420** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 2:27 pm

However if you are a swashbuckler with florentine then you can wield 2 shields, not buckler, shield and weapon, or at least that has been the ruling in the past.

Nelkie · Post by **Nelkie** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 2:57 pm

There never has been any rules given, stated, or printed on how large or small a shield could be. It has been descussed many a time, but no descision has been made. Aka, why shields have grown so large at FH.
There is two thoughts on size of shields.
First, a shield is based on how large a person is. A larger person gets to have a larger shield than a smaller person. But the same percentage of a person body would be covered by a shield. Down side is shields become player specific.
Secound, a shield limit is set. no larger than a 3'x2.5' area (7.5 sqaure feet) The shield can be any shape as long the outer permeter of the shield does not larger than 7.5 square feet. Problem is a small person has most of there body covered by the shield, while the bigger person is left more open. But it would not matter who uses the shield.

Next, if a shield size is established, does the people who have shields larger need to remake them? I would say yes to be fair to everyone.

As for the buckler ruling, about time. It has been asked before, nothing has come of it, it was used in game, it is broken, it is fixed now. Problem solved.

Post by **GM_Chris** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:53 pm

Well what is in the book or should be is this:

1) Anyone can use 1 shield and 1 weapon
2) Anyone can pick up and use 1 weapon
3) To use two weapons at once requieres a skill
4) If it isnt stated then no you cannot do it.
5) I understand the need for an FAQ on duel shields

Chris

dier_cire · Post by **dier_cire** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:12 am

Actually, I'd prefer to see either a cap of 6 square feet or a percentage of 1/2 to 2/3 shoulder width x 2/3 person height. This would give your average 6' tall person a 6 square foot shield.

As for other things. Can a swashbuckler use a shield and two weapons? Or do they just get the option to replace a shield with a weapon? Can a non swashbuckler use just two shields and no weapon?

Kidwynn · Post by **Kidwynn** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:18 am

Swashbuckler with a shield AND two weapons just seems wrong to me. I mean the purpose of having swashbuckler is to be able to use the two weapons and I would think that should be it.

But hey that is just my take on it. I also think it would be cool if they could dodge or something due to being on the light side of armor, but like I said just my thought.

dier_cire · Post by **dier_cire** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:25 am

Course, swashbuckler typically had a buckler or any shield (thus the name), yet the typical style here is dual short so the name of the discipline and the style are semi independant. It wasn't until years later the term moved over to the rapier and dagger style...

Peace420 · Post by **Peace420** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:30 am

It says right in the book that you can either wield 2 weapons or you can use a shield and weapon and not raise your armor category.

Post by **GM_Chris** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:57 am

Cool! Glad to see it is printed correctly.

Chris

dier_cire · Post by **dier_cire** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:03 pm

so then can one use a shield and two weapons, by combining swashbuckler and item #1 on chris's list? Your armor category would still increase in this case.

Or could a swashbuckler wield two shields and a weapon, increasing his or her armor category?

Post by **GM_Chris** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:36 pm

Eric please see number 4 on my list above.

Chris

dier_cire · Post by **dier_cire** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:03 pm

All are stated. I'm just combining them.

Post by **GM_Chris** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:17 pm

The duel wield under swashbuckler says shield and sword no armor penalty or you can use two weapons. No where does it say you can take that idea and combined it with some other rule to create two shields and a weapon.

Am I missing something?

Chris

dier_cire · Post by **dier_cire** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:55 pm

I can combine discipline skills to make nasty combos, doesn't say i can do that either, yet that is legal, how is this different?

Honestly, if it requires swashbuckler to have two shields and a weapon, I see no issue with it. Fighting that way is a pita (two weapons and a shield is worse) and generally not worth it unless you have a very tightly secured buckler on your swordarm side. Two full shields is worthless as you can't do any damage.

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