One of the ideas I have rattling around in my brain needs some clerity. What will be the last thing a person remembers after a sugestion has been implanted?
Example, an assassin sneaks up on some one and uses touch of death, an interigator then ties the sleeper up and plants a suggestion and releases the person.
What will the person remember? Will they remember being put to sleep, even if they were completely taken off guard? They obviously can't remember that they were tortured and that a suggestion was implanted or the ability would be worthless but what about when you release them?
Extend the senario a bit, assassin sleeps, interigators ties up and suggests, a healer heals the wounds caused from the interigating and finally the assassin resleeps the person and returns them to where they were when the proccess began.
Basicly the big question is would that person have any knowledge of what happened?
Interigator and planting suggestions.
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well I would say if an assasin sneaks up on you and knocks you out from behind then the last thing you remember is what ever it was you were looking at.
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Ok, that answers some of it... but now I have more. I'm going to ask even though my brain has moved on to yet another character becuase who knows if I'll go back to it.
So, last thing remember is last thing seen, that helps alot.
People not remembering being implanted is still kinda vague. I understand that they do not remember the person or the proccess but what about after the suggestion is implanted? Basicly what I wana know is how long do you have to return them to where you took them from before they'll start remembering?
Next on the question list is how specific does a suggestion and trigger have to be? The book states that there should be one trigger and one action. In the example, "At midnight, go into the inn and kill yourself," the trigger being midnight and the action being go to the in and kill yourself but really that's two different actions. Going to the inn and killing yourself. What if it had been worded, "At midnight, kill yourself in the inn." Seems the same but really it's much more complex. Now going to the inn could be interperted as a trigger as well. If you look at it that way the action will only be triggered if the person is in the inn at midnight. Is the book example just a bad example?
NEXT! This one is easy, is a suggestion still in some ones head after it has been completed. Now the rules say now but what I want to know is can another interigator still probe that person to find out who made the suggestion? If the implementer can still be determined then there must remain at least a part of the suggestion and if that's true could continual suggestion result in conditioned responces? As an example, you implant the suggestion,"return here tomarrow at noon," just to implant the same suggestion day after day. Would a person just eventually continue to return to that spot at noon even after the suggestion was no longer replenished each day, thus allowing for a new suggestion to be implanted? Obviously this is outside the rules but I was just curious.
I had one more but it escapes me atm, guess I wouldn't be a very good interigator after all. When I remember I'll post it.
So, last thing remember is last thing seen, that helps alot.
People not remembering being implanted is still kinda vague. I understand that they do not remember the person or the proccess but what about after the suggestion is implanted? Basicly what I wana know is how long do you have to return them to where you took them from before they'll start remembering?
Next on the question list is how specific does a suggestion and trigger have to be? The book states that there should be one trigger and one action. In the example, "At midnight, go into the inn and kill yourself," the trigger being midnight and the action being go to the in and kill yourself but really that's two different actions. Going to the inn and killing yourself. What if it had been worded, "At midnight, kill yourself in the inn." Seems the same but really it's much more complex. Now going to the inn could be interperted as a trigger as well. If you look at it that way the action will only be triggered if the person is in the inn at midnight. Is the book example just a bad example?
NEXT! This one is easy, is a suggestion still in some ones head after it has been completed. Now the rules say now but what I want to know is can another interigator still probe that person to find out who made the suggestion? If the implementer can still be determined then there must remain at least a part of the suggestion and if that's true could continual suggestion result in conditioned responces? As an example, you implant the suggestion,"return here tomarrow at noon," just to implant the same suggestion day after day. Would a person just eventually continue to return to that spot at noon even after the suggestion was no longer replenished each day, thus allowing for a new suggestion to be implanted? Obviously this is outside the rules but I was just curious.
I had one more but it escapes me atm, guess I wouldn't be a very good interigator after all. When I remember I'll post it.
No on the conditioned response.
I'm pretty sure no on the probing to find who implanted the suggestion after the fact.
As far as not remembering, if someone is conscious they remember it. So if you implant a suggestion then wake them up and let them out of the building, they'll remember walking out of the building.
I'm pretty sure no on the probing to find who implanted the suggestion after the fact.
As far as not remembering, if someone is conscious they remember it. So if you implant a suggestion then wake them up and let them out of the building, they'll remember walking out of the building.
I belive the default answer to " i know its not in the rules but can I...", will always be no, just as both Todd and Chris stated at the pre-game meeting last event...in case you were absent. I cant remember who was and was not there.
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The difference is in, 'suggestion', and 'conditioning'. Pavlove didnt inplant a suggestion to drool. (a one time event), he conditioned the dog to do so repeatedly. (as yet we have no rules for conditioning, ergo you can not do it.)
As for does he remember why he did what he did. I think once performed, its gone. Time for the crying to start "WHY!?, WHY?!" (Nancy eat your heart out.
~fin~
As for does he remember why he did what he did. I think once performed, its gone. Time for the crying to start "WHY!?, WHY?!" (Nancy eat your heart out.
~fin~