rez time

Zahn · Post by **Zahn** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:49 pm

The idea that was in my mind was this: Still a long rez time, but a choice to shorten it. The more you shorten it, the more likely it is to fail. Say you can chose to shorten it by 10 or 15 min intervals, but if you do, you have to choose more chips out of the bag.

A possible example: They pick their one surgery chip. After that, a 60 min rez like currently succeeds and you move on. A 50 min rez would choose another one, a 40 min rez would choose two, a 30 min rez would choose three, a 20 min rez four, and a 10 min rez five. A 10 min rez has 3/5 of a chance of failure. Anything under 10 min (being disturbed, choosing to stop) is automatic failure.

Post by Ug » Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:39 am

If you give the player a choice, then the players around them know that they were being reckless and may retaliate for their recklessness, which will bring us right back to where we are right now and all the empaths will feel 'obligated' to do long rez's else they might begin to have problems around town.

Onimaster · Post by **Onimaster** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:34 am

Zydana wrote:I think there should be a penalty to the PC that died. Like, some sort of resurection sickness where their body and spirit is still weak and are unable to preform the tasks that a normal healthy body could do for a while. I think perhaps something simalar to starving for an hour or so..

Well, what about a situation where a lot of people die and the empaths also fall. Then when they get back up you'd have to wait even longer before they could start helping other players...

Post by **GM_Chris** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:13 pm

I know for myself and for Wayne we want a change in attitude. Right now people fight until they are dead. Now I do like this, but at the same time we dont. I love it is critical heroic moments, but not in every battle.

I think if people felt that EVERY death brings with it a chance of perma death then well people will fall on the ground with a couple life left. Will leave combat when their armour is gone and the like.

Post by Ug » Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:26 pm

I am 100% in favor of lower rez times and higher chances of permadeath.

Post by **Zydana** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:29 pm

Onimaster wrote:
Zydana wrote:I think there should be a penalty to the PC that died. Like, some sort of resurection sickness where their body and spirit is still weak and are unable to preform the tasks that a normal healthy body could do for a while. I think perhaps something simalar to starving for an hour or so..
Well, what about a situation where a lot of people die and the empaths also fall. Then when they get back up you'd have to wait even longer before they could start helping other players...

That's the risk we all take when we leave the inn. What penalty is there to the player themselves when they die? Right now the get to take a breather on the table as they're being rezed. There should be some sort of sickness or illness from the body after it's been dead. Have it take a while for the body itself to realize it's alive and moving around again.

Donovan Thynedar · Post by **Donovan Thynedar** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:01 pm

GM_Chris wrote:
I think if people felt that EVERY death brings with it a chance of perma death then well people will fall on the ground with a couple life left.

Chris, some of us have been doing that anyway.

Post by Ug » Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:23 pm

Donovan Thynedar wrote:
GM_Chris wrote:
I think if people felt that EVERY death brings with it a chance of perma death then well people will fall on the ground with a couple life left.
Chris, some of us have been doing that anyway.

Doesn't count when you are surrounded by 22 enemies

hehe

Donovan Thynedar · Post by **Donovan Thynedar** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:26 pm

Ug wrote:
Donovan Thynedar wrote:
GM_Chris wrote:
I think if people felt that EVERY death brings with it a chance of perma death then well people will fall on the ground with a couple life left.
Chris, some of us have been doing that anyway.
Doesn't count when you are surrounded by 22 enemies

hehe

It damn sure does when they all walk away.

Peace420 · Post by **Peace420** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:38 pm

I like the shorter rez time, the 1 hour rarely ever comes into play anyway.

I like the 3 chip draw as well, and the change in order for the dead dead to where the healer has to prepare the body first, then the other things then the healing.

I think the increased chance of perma death is enough for the player, if anything else maybe under the effects of starving for a short period of time afterward.

Claude du Sinjin · Post by **Claude du Sinjin** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:42 pm

Starvation for 1 hour after being rezzed in addition to a pull from the chip bag sounds good to me. At that point, dying sucks. To stay viable in a conflict you would surely retreat early to be healed and have armor repaired instead of risking death and being the walking worthless for an hour. Trust me, starvation is not fun!!

Kalphoenix · Post by **Kalphoenix** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:12 pm

I definately agree. Starving = not fun and with a shorter rez time, that would put most of the fault/blame/work on the person who died and not the Empath.

I think this was discussed before, but I'm not sure.

Lambic · Post by **Lambic** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:54 pm

I am for these changes (shorter rez time and penalty to the recently deceased). However, I feel I have to play devils advocate here.

Lambic took a dive in a fight to keep from going squish. He also got his ass handed to him repeatedly into the negatives, no because he didn't retreat but because He quickly went from 4 life to -6 (2-2-2-2-2 or 3-3-3). Often his body was brutalized while crawling away from the fight. He was at -1, crawling out of the cave when he was beaten (legally) from behind waaay into the negatives and died Saturday night. I than sat down by the caves for at least a 1/2 hour before someone drug me to the top of the stairs, where I and Dewberry stayed for well over an hour. We took time out to warm ourselves by the fire but anytime someone passed by we were in position. I still don't know how anything played out because I wasn't involved in the culmination of those plots. Soooo....Its not all songs and rose to be dead.

I just worry that if current NPC tatics continue the way the are (throat slitting, beating deep into the negatives, etc.) and then you change the rez rules, you might end up with more permadeath than expected.

Also Lambic was fully expecting to die Saturday and not come back. He believed he knew the potion stock of the town (he was wrong) and there just wasn't enough. He was very confused we came back around and now I have sea shanties running through me head all of the damn time!

It is possible that I am having a very different experience than others.

Onyksi Rin'oviryn · Post by **Onyksi Rin'oviryn** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:19 pm

This is very true regarding the NPC tactics. Even when you do drop early, it doesn't matter because you're going to get hit at least 5 more times while you're down.

However, if you're an empath or an arcane, or both, spending the majority of your event sitting around rezzing people is enough to make you not want to play that character anymore.

So it's kind of a toss up. But I, for one, come to the game to have fun and play, not just sit around. That may sound shitty, but I'll put money on that's how every other empath/arcane feels right now.

Post by **GM_Chris** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:43 pm

We hear you about the short rez time and I want to make that. You can rp while rezzing. A rite could act like it did in Willow and she talked plenty.

Oh and I think we are being a bit quick on the head taking. Need to slow down. I think a count will help that